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well, good day Welcome back to The Swarm unplugged. Today we have a very special and exciting guest that most of us know. And those that don't we'll learn some thing about this person today and about the project, what three they are working on. And at this point, I'd like to bring on the infamous the famous, the web three educator and entrepreneur. will tee welcome. Where

1:17  
are you? Hey, Rickster, thanks for having me on how you doing today?

1:21  
I'm doing fantastic, actually awesome. The last couple of weeks have actually two and a half weeks, I had the pleasure of skipping out of New York, heading down to Florida to visit my family on a trip was scheduled to go from the ninth to the 23rd, which is yesterday. And by some odd means I was held hostage. And I at this point, I don't even have a return flight. That is

1:50  
it's not a bad place to be held captive in sunny Florida, right?

1:54  
No, not at all, especially with the family that I have. And it was just a marvelous time we threw a surprise party for my sister's 70th party that went over fat, you know, absolutely fantastic. But let's not talk about me.

2:08  
We're just gonna ask you, I was just gonna ask you, are you on the Gulf side or the Atlantic side?

2:12  
I am on the east side in about 40 minutes north of Lauderdale. Okay, my sisters live about 30 minutes apart, up the East Coast. Awesome. Very good. Very, very nice to be here. But listen, I hear through rumor and discussions. And on the web, that wilty web three educator has a project, a web three project that I've known about for quite a long time only by its name, and not really in the depth that I was exposed to it last night. And the project I believe if correct me if I'm wrong is reach one teach one, which is a marvelous coin of words to begin with great, great title for your project. Tell us a little bit about the project well, or maybe in detail and how it started and where you expect it to go.

3:14  
Yeah, thanks for that. That's, that's a great question. And truly, it's not my own original thought necessarily. I'm sure I was inspired at some point, either. It was from an NFT conference in Arizona, where someone said, Man, if we only had the ability to reach out to one person and teach one person, or it might have been in Atlanta, you know, I'm not really sure, it might have come to me in a in a dream to write. But essentially, as I started wrapping my brain around this concept, and started having some more provocative thought around it, you know, it's, it's really something that can morph into something amazing and fantastic. So just a little bit of the background, if you will. So reach one teach one the focus is about web three education. Its ethos is to reach one person, teach one person, and then that person should be empowered with enough knowledge to go teach, you know, two people and then if those two people teach for and those four, teach a, so forth and so on, it starts to propagate an exponential eyes. So it's really about empowering people with the education of web three. And as I get more granular with it, as I get deeper into the details with it, it's truly something that can embrace. You know, it's, I refer to it as like a program right now, based on the conversations I've been having in my Twitter spaces. Based on the research that I've done, there's very little interest terms of formal contents out there or formal traditional curriculums of what we would expect from an educational platform. So this to me, I'm sorry, I had,

5:13  
I was, in thinking in the form of a curriculum like an educational institution, what would be the mechanism to share that curriculum? Or would it be in a program that you have a, you know, sort of a list of different subjects you'd like to learn? And then that would open up into content in a PDF in a text or stuff like that? Or would it be web based and you had the opportunity to download it or just see it online? What do you envision that level of it?

5:46  
Well, that's a great question. So back to what I was saying. So I saw that there was a need for this, right? There are a few out there, there is one out there that if you want to learn how to become a smart contract developer, they'll take you through a college style course, that goes from freshman to senior, and then you graduate, you get a nice, wonderful certificate saying that you're certified by this entity, which is a doubt, they're called Learn went through doubt. And then you're certified by them that you're, you know, a master of that skill of being a smart contract developer. So where I see reach one, teach one fitting into the overall ecosystem, it can embrace people who are already here in web three that want to get a little more expansive. On their knowledge base, maybe they want to explore out into another area, maybe they're like, a traditional artists, and they want to learn how to create music. Or say, if it's somebody just brand new, fresh off the street, this is pretty much a grassroots program. So if somebody's fresh off the street, they want to learn about what's going on over here, it will have the ability to teach that too. As far as the formalized curriculum. I believe it starts with online education, we are in a digital age, there's no reason why people can't learn from the comfort of their own home. And it'll be self paced. So it'll be based on their time that they want to put into it, is how I see it started off. Eventually, I see this as something that could be incorporated into a Metaverse with an actual live educator, running the lesson plan. Part of the inspiration for this came from a gentleman that I'm connected to on Twitter, who's been a regular contributor to my twitter space, under reach one, teach one, his name is Mr. G. And so Mr. G has this. And he's been doing a lot of exploration and his own research about what's called a learned earn program, learn to earn programs or models are essentially the opposite of the standard tuition based educational models. So instead of you having to pay to learn something, you'll be rewarded for learning something, which I think is a very interesting, exciting and refreshing concept all by itself. Now, when you combine that with the power of community, when you've combined that with the power of web three, open sourcing and a collaborative effort, it becomes that much more of a robust proposition for people to entertain.

8:21  
Absolutely. I do agree with you the Learn to earn phase of this is absolutely, totally anti education that we know of it today, especially higher education, where you know, the font the required funds and cost are just so prohibited. Where do you anticipate the actual funds to come from and generate enough to have this earn to learn what would they be earning? Would it be crypto would it be, obviously they earn a level of achievement that they can go out and reach that level and become educators themselves? But from a lower level of earn to learn? What would you expect? And where would you expect those funds to come from to be able to generate that?

9:11  
Yeah, so that's a that's a great question. I believe it starts from the bottom up with that. So one, finding the people that want to learn and what do they want to learn about that would be probably a focus group study that can be accomplished, you know, bring them into a zoom say, hey, you know, we're thinking about this. What are you excited about? What do you want to learn about? As far as the rewards mechanism? I see it as CIO in corporate America, I did regularly function as a project manager outside of being a business strategist, the two job functions kind of intertwine so just putting on my project manager hat for a moment. As they achieve certain milestones within the curriculum, so say they they complete a lesson plan, right? They would get in a special NF t call Have a poll app, which is proof of authentic participation. So as they collect these poll apps, they then become like badges, you know, badges that I completed this curriculum or I completed this specific lesson plan. So they're tied to that at the end of the course. So say, You rickster, you want to learn about how to create an NFT, build a community around a music project, you complete the entire curriculum, then you get an NFT, certifying you as a mastery of that skill. And it would be an actual, like, full blown NFT that could have real value in at least to you that it would add real value to, potentially the marketplace, and it would give you a higher level of credibility that cannot be denied, because it's stored on the blockchain. If that makes sense.

10:57  
Yes. These NF T's we certainly and again, correct me if I'm wrong, we couldn't if they did increase in value, there's no way you can sell that, because the purchaser would have to have that level of expertise to be able to utilize it.

11:15  
Right. Right.

11:16  
I have a personal I haven't what is that, you know, tells the world that I've reached a certain level in my education and and reaching that level, I become now the teacher.

11:30  
Yes, yes. And so the way I see this program developing is kind of like an on the job training. Similar to a mentor style program where like a mentor could take on two to three mentees, walk them through the entire process, there will be a hands on aspect to it as well, to display the mastery of certain skills. Yeah, I think it's going to be absolutely amazing once it gets fully developed. Now to go back to your question about the funding. So I believe that this starts inside of a doubt. It gets accepted and support from a doubt to get to a certain level of funding to get more increased funding, then that Dow or members of that Dow go out and find other dowels that have a very similar focus, and they look to incorporate other communities. So this is something that in my mind, just, you know, from a global macro perspective of the entire ecosystem of web three, it can be very collaborative, and it can be multiple entities that fund and support it to keep it keep it going forward. Keep an ever evolving and maturing.

12:42  
And from the the Dow standpoint, assuming that a Dow did accept this and want to participate in it, that would be a feed for new members for that Dow every student could be exposed to that Dow and that Dow could potentially explode as far as size goes.

13:01  
Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, the possibilities are endless. I mean, think about. So like what we know, close our own hearts social beast out. And we put together a proposal, the proposal gets approved, they say, Okay, now go do this, go build this, right. And then we go under construction, and we build it and everybody's like, Oh, man, this is awesome. This is wonderful. I gotta tell my friends about it. Well, telling your friends about it, how are they going to participate? Being a token, get it down. I mean, they may have to get an NFT to actually participate. But then as it starts propagating outside of just that one initial ecosystem, or that one initial community, then there may be other mechanisms put in place in terms of participation. But initially, like I said, it's grassroots effort, it's got to start somewhere. So why not start with the social piece down?

13:57  
Well, absolutely. And I can see this over time, you know, Dows cross platforming, and one person could be, you know, a member of multiple Dows supporting them in ways. So that's

14:08  
an even an even the entry interoperability of going across various blockchains as well. I mean, that's being worked on on a daily basis, people are working to, I mean, there are some bridges that exists. Now, what a lot of people need to understand is that the bridge creates a risk, or a point of entry, where, you know, the blockchain or activity on the blockchain could be compromised. So I know that the people that build these bridges, they're focused very highly on safety and security and locking down these bridges to where they can't be compromised, right. But at the end of the day, yeah, when you talk about the speed of the rate, the interoperability between various blockchains is being developed on a daily basis. We'll wake up a year from now, in my mind at least, and we'll be able to go, Hey, you want to take your Aetherium? Nf t over to? And go play in Cardano? or what have you? Right. So, now, very cool.

15:14  
Earlier, you had mentioned that this project, and you are not the only mastermind, and then this project, right at the stage where you can disclose, you know, who the other masterminds of this project that are, are too early?

15:31  
Um, what I mean, I think it's a little bit early in that topic of discussion for another time. What What I can say is the, you know, the people I've already outlined here in this discussion are points of inspiration for this. And as we keep moving forward through the process of forming an actual project around this getting the support, initially of the grassroots community to support this and maybe give some initial funding to it. We'll see how it develops. And yeah, absolutely. I'll be happy to come on here and give you regular updates. If, if that's what's required.

16:10  
Excellent. No, absolutely, absolutely. Going back to the earn to learn integration, I would imagine at some point, you know, in the development and expansion of this, that you're going to have an urn to teach where the teachers are going to be compensated at some point, is that correct?

16:29  
Yeah, well, I think that can be baked in right out of the get go, that will be attractive to somebody who wants to participate in an educator level. Now, in order to be a qualified educator, you may have to go through a rigorous interview process that is reviewed by your peers, on the basis of a mastery of the knowledge base required to teach other people. But that being said, once you pass that initial assessment, absolutely, you should be compensated for your time. So want to figure out all the mechanics and all the details surrounding that. But yeah, having educators and learners compensated alongside each other for one, doing something that they are very passionate about, to learning and developing a new skill. I mean, here's a prime example. I've had some private conversations with some people, and they just don't know how they fit into web three. So this will create that pathway for them to figure out how they're going to fit into web three, you know, let's say an electrical engineer, right? They don't know how they're going to fit into web three, because they may not be excited about becoming a blockchain developer. But they're looking at schematics and drawings all day. Well, why couldn't they be a Metaverse architect? Because that's essentially what it is when you break it down at the end of the day with all the wireframing and the design elements that need to go into it. So there's just a lot of possibilities and

18:02  
a teacher within one's field. Yeah, I mean, every, you know, a profession, that their skill that with various levels, you know, turning that around, and bringing others on as men, you know, a mentor to somebody else is certainly another avenue of what they can be doing in web three. So I absolutely love your project.

18:25  
Thank you. I appreciate that.

18:26  
I have one other question. And in a previous conversation, you said that, you know, you never exceed your expectations of this project. We're on one level. And over time, it has expanded beyond your imagination. What made that happen? I mean, how did you come to that epiphany saying, Well, I've got, you know, a bundle of things here, and now I can't even fit them in my entire cart.

18:59  
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. And I believe a lot of that just comes through experience, even when I was working in in the corporate world, I was always a big picture thinker. I like to think about the whole piece of the pie, not just my own little segment. I've always been like a bottom line contributor, if that makes sense. So thinking from that perspective, from the whole global ecosystem of web three, and everything that it contains, you know, part of it take kind of taken on a life of its own now, but it's getting, you know, some decent traction and getting some, some good support and praise for the program. I believe part of that comes from that nobody's done this yet. Nobody has figured out how to construct a system that would function in this manner. So I think that's part of where it comes from. Now. There are some developed curriculums out there and I are I am look Connect those models. I did point out one earlier, there are some other ones out there. But at the end of the day, I think that there may be some challenges for people to participate. There is one I'm looking at that's like an accredited European, higher learning institution. But at the end of the day, in order to get your certificate, you have to mint the NFT and pay for that mental that NFT. Well, why should you have to pay if you're the learner, and you're getting rewarded, and along the way, not just through the knowledge that you're gaining, but also you're being rewarded? Like, so the difference for each one teach one, you get rewarded in like many NF T's along the way known as prolapse. And then at the end, you know, eventually I'd you'd be, you wouldn't necessarily have to mint it and pay for it yourself as far as the final NFT that you get for your accreditation or what have you. Would you

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imagine, in the process of these mini NF T's, somebody has to burn them, and then they get the master one, or

21:04  
I mean, that could be you know, that could be the case. Okay, now that you've collected, say it's, you know, say it's a 12, serious course or whatever, so that you collected all 12. Now, in order to get the final line, you have to burn it. I mean, that's an interesting proposition. That's something definitely we could entertain. Obviously, you know, there's people in this space that are smarter than myself, that I'm going to have to partner with to figure out all these finer details, but at all take inspiration and collaboration along the way. Don't get me wrong, that's what this space is all about. But, you know, we need to find other people to work with as well to effectuate this,

21:44  
even in that simple example of, you know, getting your 12 minis and then burning it, you're again, you're teaching the student what it is to burn a token with a burning NFT. So it's an education process all well, where, if any, at this point, I know it's very early in your stage of development. Can people learn or find out more about this? I mean, do you have

22:09  
I would say I would say right now, they just need to tune in to the spaces that I'm hosting. Over the last six weeks, I've developed what probably upwards of 25 hours of content that I've downloaded off of Twitter that's in my estimation is being prepared to be broadcast out on podcast, podcast channels. So if they just follow me on Twitter, my Twitter handle is at wilty SBU Tao follow me on Twitter join the spaces and learn more about it. We're gonna have more developed conversation starting next week about this.

22:49  
And of course, the aka is kingfishers corner.

22:53  
As right so so that was one thing about my branding of my space that I had to think long and hard about. So King Think of it this way kingfishers corner is the media producer of the reach one teach one program at this point in time.

23:08  
Excellent, excellent. Well, when the time comes where you have a you know, some sort of either a holding page or develop, we'll call it a website just for your use of terminology where people can go and learn about it. I certainly would love to have you back. And, you know, people who are interested in your project, which I absolutely love, how they can get involved and, you know, maybe even have some sort of a, you know, in people wanting to help your project what what is it that they can do? Or how can they help you at this point? What would you need from let's say, the B social bees in helping you accelerate this?

23:47  
Yeah, I think a lot of the social bees know how to get a hold of me directly if you don't, Twitter DMS are always good. I mean, I'm on Twitter, probably eight to 10 hours a day. And that's, that's no, no doubt about that.

24:04  
Even even in my communication with you this morning, I was like, What is we'll doing up at four in the morning.

24:12  
Anyways, um, so that being said, the reason for the rebranding, I just want to put a little bit more clarity into this. So a year from now, when people are like, where are we gonna go? Where are we gonna go find out information on Twitter, about web three education? Well, we're all gonna go to kingfishers corner and learn about reach one teach one. So that's just kind of the thought process behind that. I think it's a fun little play.

24:41  
dreadfully is I mean, you know, we'll see if somebody has a designated area in their title, you know, and again that cornered could, you know, obviously occupy more space than you can imagine as a corner of something like King and, and tell us how you came up with the word King fit Sure.

25:01  
So Kingfisher actually comes from my days at the Art Institute. I was in a Media Design program where we had to come up with a very unique pseudonym to use in the industry to be known by in the industry. I was a avid birdwatcher growing up. And so one day I just did a search on, you know, exotic birds of the world. I came across the Molokai kingfisher. I fell in love with that I took on that moniker that was circa 2001. And it's stuck with me ever since as a nickname. I do have one of my social setup is that is my first name and then my real last name. But yeah, that's where the inspiration from that comes from. And it's just been around for the past two decades and I decided to run with it and turn it into a brand.

25:49  
Well, I think that we have learned this firsthand for the first time when was formally plugged? know people when they see kingfisher? You know you in the fishing industry? I mean, you actually given us a giant nugget here knowing that that comes from a very what you say famous or bird I know bird but it was

26:13  
not it for exotic bird. Yeah. Molokai kingfisher.

26:17  
I'm gonna look that up after this session. Oh, it's a beautiful bird. beautiful bird. But well, I thank you so much for coming on and going over your teach one reach one project. I'm definitely a very solid person that's interested. And I believe this is a great project. And I see it developing into something much bigger than you even think right now. Which you thought you know, three months ago. Absolutely. Absolutely. And good luck. And thank you for coming on to the swarm unplugged, and we'll let you get back to your daily life. I know you got to get back to work in your early mornings time. And again, thank you so much for coming on.

27:00  
Absolutely. My pleasure, Rick, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. I look for more to talk about how reach one teach one is going to impact the masses when it comes to web three education.

27:12  
You bet and my doors are always open. Thank you. Well, alright, thank you, sir. You bet. Well, that was quite an exciting episode that will tea and his teach one reach one reach one teach one program I think is very exciting. And if you have any questions about it, or like to jump on board to give them some help support or otherwise, we will know how to reach him. But again, thank you for participating in the swarm unplugged. We'll see you next week at the same time and the same place.